Trinity Ti-200 Gas Hot Water Boiler Radiant Baseboard WARRANTY, TECHNICAL & FACTORY TRAINED SUPPORT DIRECT Start Price USD 3,149.00 Current Price USD 3,149.00 Time Left - Bid Count 0 Buy It Now Price - Reserve Price - Start Time Tuesday, September 02, 2008 End Time Friday, September 12, 2008 Location York, Pennsylvania See more about 'Trinity Ti-200 Gas Hot Water Boiler Radiant Baseboard' Description DESCO Energy (DESCO - Diehl's Environmental Services COmpany)    ABSOLUTE ONLY SOURCE LISTED on GOODMAN's WEBSITE   + ABSOLUTE ONLY MEMBER SOURCE LISTED on the Better Business Bureau's Website   The only registered Aplus Goodman Good Care Dealer providing Sales, Support, Service & Factory Warranties direct to you.   To validate our statements click on the logos below                   Trinity - The first wall hung ultra efficient boiler manufactured in North America! And DESCO Energy - the absolute only online source for Trinity Boilers with NTI Factory trained technical support. CAUTION!!   WARNING!!   CAUTION!!    BEWARE!! Note that DESCO Energy is the only source online providing the following important Manufacturer's Support including but not limited to the following: Trinity NTI Factory Trained Technical Support  + NATE Certified Trained Technicians (The Highest Standard in our Industry) DESCO Energy is fully licensed as well as all of our support and design team associates Trinity NTI Factory Warranty Direct Complete hydronic system components, design, layout and sizing complete - DESCO Energy distributes and stocks over 5,000 HVAC products - We design, size, layout and sell heating and cooling systems for houses as large as 20,000 square feet to industries with several 100,000 square feet to millions of square feet. HVAC is our business and it's our only business. Accurate Guaranteed Online Sizing for determining the proper size heating and cooling equipment for your house - No ridiculous sizing by square footage but sizing by our industry's highest standards - Improper sizing is responsible for over 85% of heating and cooling system warranty and comfort problems. An HVAC Distribution Company - DESCO Energy - that has been in business for over 35 years with a wealth of combined knowledge of over 200 years + a company that is the only online seller that is a Member of the Better Business Bureau which has no customer complaints filed against us at anytime through any source in over 35 years with 100% Feedback on eBay. And we've provided tens of thousands of HVAC (Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning) systems to homeowners, industry and commercial customers locally in Pennsylvania and Maryland and Nationwide and Canada online. While our so called competition only sells boxes, we Dare You to Compare and see the difference. We promise you no other competitor can offer factory trained technical support on Trinity boilers. So what happens when your installer has problems or you need warranty support? The factory won't provide it, but we do and we provide this direct. And we do it for all the products we sell. In fact no other seller comes close to any of professional services, expertise and product selection as DESCO Energy gives you. Remember DESCO Energy has had no dissatisfied customer complaints in over 35 years. With Sales of over tens of thousands of systems, no other seller can make that claim. That's why it pays to deal with the best professionals and organization in the HVAC industry. Last but not least, DESCO Energy is the only seller online of HVAC products direct to the homeowner that has 2 requirements to receive complete warranty and technical support. These requirements assure you of a properly sized, designed and installed system that will provide maximum comfort, maximum energy savings and many years of trouble free service. The first requirement is to determine the heating and cooling requirements for your house or business. DESCO Energy is the only source providing free online sizing of your heating and cooling system. The second requirement is completion of our warranty validation form by you and your installer. The warranty validation form proves the technician or installer has properly installed your new system and that the operation is at 100% efficiency to provide you maximum comfort, energy savings and longevity. No other source has any requirements. The Warranty Validation Form has been reviewed and approved by the manufacturer(s) for the product(s) provided. Our two requirements are the reasons why we are able to offer warranty and technical support direct to you. It is also the reason why our customers have the lowest warranty claims in the HVAC industry and the main contributing reason why our customers have never had to file any complaint against us. The second main reason there have been no customer complaints filed against us is because we believe customer service is our primary goal and responsibility. You can either be a box buyer using nothing other than price as your guideline and purchase a box from a box seller or you can purchase a system with the technical support and assistance you need for a successful installation. **Click Here to go to the continued part of this message in the lower part of this ad. To get started Click Here to be directed to our Online Sizing Form in a new window. Please read this entire ad to become a smarter homeowner about your heating and/or cooling system. If you want more information about heating and air conditioning check out our website after you've completed the online sizing form. Need a shipping quote? Please see below after the product specifications for our online shipping quote or click here. Got Questions?? Need Assistance?? Confused?? Call DESCO Energy Toll Free 877-265-9764 8-5 Eastern Time You can also email us at info@descoenergy.com or from the ASK a Question Section on eBay for minor questions. For any and all pricing, detailed or multiple questions, please call us. Emails are very inefficient for an application requiring detailed explanations or where further information is almost always required by our design and sales team for a correct answer.   Welcome to DESCO Energy     Click on the Size My System logo above.   Have your system sized accurately.  Oversizing of equipment - The biggest mistake made by contractors and homeowners - Oversizing - Results in over 95% of warranty claims - poor comfort - wasted energy - premature system failures - and higher costs for larger sized equipment. Click on the Size My System logo above to go to our online sizing form - Guaranteed Accurate Manual J Sizing of your system and it's FREE!! We are conveniently located in the Northeast 26 North State Street  York, Pa. 17403 Only minutes or hours from every major northeast city - Washington, D.C. 1.5 hours Baltimore 45 minutes - Philadelphia 90 minutes - New York City 2.5 hours Pittsburg 3 hours - Harrisburg and Lancaster 30 minutes Contact Us - info@descoenergy.com Toll Free 877-265-9764 or 717-846-3384   Did you know DESCO Energy also provide a complete design of your hot water baseboard or radiant heat system. Free when making a boiler purchase! This ad is for the following Product(s): This system listed is a Natural Gas/ Propane Trinity Wall Hung Boiler Model Ti200 from 25k to 200k Btus  97% Operating Efficiency and 92.7% AFUE Price - $3,149   The Trinity Ti-200 is the largest selling boiler on eBay and the internet. Why? The Trinity is loaded with more energy savings and beneficial features at an unbeatable price. To begin with the operating efficiency of 97% and an overall AFUE efficiency of 92.7%. If you live in Michigan or any other area that requires the H Stamp certification for boilers, please note the Trinity Ti200 comes with the H Stamp ASME certified. Time Well Spent Before making any decisions or do any further research for your HVAC (Heating, Ventilating and Air Conditioning) system, please read the following page and introduction so you can better understand our industry, warranties, technical support and the difference in sellers.  Unlike other products you may have purchased, the methods and practices of the heating and air conditioning industry are very different. Knowing those differences will help you to make better and more informed decisions.      Isn't every seller of HVAC equipment a distributor and factory trained? If they are advertising the products they have to be affiliated with the manufacturer, don't they? Surprisingly the overwhelming majority of HVAC sellers on the internet have no affiliation with any of the manufacturers' products they advertise. Any manufacturer providing a product certainly knows who is selling their products online, right?  And if they didn't approve or of the seller wasn't qualified or affiliated somehow with the manufacturer they would not let them sell their products, right? Unfortunately those assumptions can and have caused a lot of unsuspecting homeowners problems after they have made their purchases.  A manufacturer can't stop anybody from selling their products whether it is online or elsewhere. It's simply against our fair trade laws. Most times these sellers will make their purchases from other distributors or dealers similar to DESCO Energy or from friends in the industry and then sell them online. They work out of their houses and usually have no training in the HVAC industry. We have not found any other online sellers who have state licenses to distribute HVAC products nor are they qualified to provide factory technical or warranty support. We however could be wrong and there might be another qualified certified licensed distributor out there. So if you are inquiring to any competitor ask them their credentials and their qualifications. If in doubt ask them to provide something in writing by any industry authorizing agency that authorizes or qualifies them to sell the products they advertise such as a state license, factory training. manufacturer authorization or certified industry training to sell the products they advertise. It's too easy for any seller to say "Yes I'm qualified and authorized and I've been in the HVAC business forever". Okay but what difference does it make? Price is price and I can get warranty and technical support from the factory just like any other product, right? Wrong! In the HVAC industry warranties and support are handled very differently from other manufacturers' products. In the HVAC industry products typically advertised such as this Trinity boiler are sold to licensed experienced professionals by distributors. The distributor provides technical support as well as warranty support only to the licensed professional. When a distributor is unable to provide the proper technical support or warranty support then the licensed professional or distributor may call the manufacturer for assistance. So if I do my own complete installation I can act like the licensed professional and call you or the manufacturer when I need technical assistance or warranty support, right? Wrong again. No homeowner is qualified to do their own complete installation unless they are already licensed HVAC technicians. Plus HVAC Manufacturers will not and do not provide technical or warranty support to the end user or the homeowner. DESCO Energy will provide certain basic technical support to you. We'll even show you how to do most of the installation yourself if you have the proper required skills and technical expertise. However we require that you use a licensed professional to do the final part of any installation, check-out and start up of every boiler we sell. We also provide technical support to your licensed professional doing the final start up and check out of the system should the need arise. What happens if I just ignore your requirements and do the installation myself? DESCO Energy provides a warranty validation form to you that must be filled out and completed by the licensed professional of your choice. This form must be returned to us within 60 days of the sale of the equipment. Failure on your part to use a licensed professional and not complete and return the warranty validation form to our offices will result in no warranty coverage or continued technical support. No other seller makes an installation or warranty requirement, why does DESCO Energy? Remember at the beginning of this paragraph when we stated that the overwhelming majority of sellers of HVAC products on the internet have no direct affiliation with the manufacturers of the products they advertise? Since these sellers have no factory approved training or industry training they themselves are box sellers and their primary interest is in selling boxes. If they have little or no knowledge of the products they're selling, they can't very well establish guidelines as to how the product is to be installed or serviced. You may, like many homeowners, only find  these facts out too late after you've made your purchase and try to get warranty or technical support and are left with a boiler or other piece of equipment without any support whatsoever. Once you have a warranty failure and need technical support, then is when you will find out the extreme limitations of a particular seller. You will also find that manufacturers will be of little or no help in providing any support to you. My goal is to save energy and save money on my installation. High contractor prices, expensive service and maintenance calls coupled with the extreme high energy costs are really hitting me hard. I don't want to just buy boxes. I want to save energy, increase comfort and save on installation costs with a system that lasts forever. Can DESCO Energy help me achieve those goals and how? We can and do provide everything to help you meet those goals except the part about the system that lasts forever. Realize that every piece of mechanical equipment will fail eventually. It's not a matter of if it fails, but when it will fail. If your new system is sized, designed and installed properly, you will avoid costly premature failures and expensive repairs while saving energy and increasing comfort. By following our guidelines and assistance that has been developed over the course of 34 years, we can help you achieve your goals and more.  Our goal at DESCO Energy is to make your installation successful and eliminate costly surprises. We measure your success by sizing. selecting, designing and providing a heating and/or cooling system that operates at peak efficiency and provides you many many years of improved comfort with the least amount of problems. We do this by providing the tools and expertise to help guide you through the process and to assist you in avoiding the problems that cause premature equipment failures, poor comfort and lack of any real significant energy savings. Our average homeowner saves 40 to 70% off of a contractor quoted installation, reduces their energy consumption at an average of 50% and increases their comfort levels significantly. No homeowner can achieve those goals by purchasing boxes from Box Sellers. If it was that simple we wouldn't have any need to provide the technical support and assistance we work so very hard at giving our customers. If it was so easy and simple we'd do it like other online sellers by simply listing the equipment and manufacturer's specifications in our ads and provide nothing more. But then we'd just be another Box Seller. We've taken the hard part out of it for you by providing technical expertise written in a format designed for the homeowner do it yourselfer. From the beginning we accurately size and select the most efficient system for you by use of our online sizing form. Oversizing of equipment is the leading cause of premature equipment failures, poor comfort and excessive energy consumption. We also provide the most complete website that gives you the most complete technical expertise including the most comprehensive library for HVAC installations on the internet. Our proven methods and technical assistance have provided thousands of homeowners with successful HVAC installations from Hawaii, Alaska, Texas, Canada and everywhere in between.   So when I purchase from DESCO Energy I'm getting more than a box, I'm getting the technical expertise that will help me to size, select, design and install the most efficient heating system possible for the lowest possible price with the full factory warranty support all provided by DESCO Energy. Before I thought that all online sellers were the same and that if I needed factory support I could go back to the manufacturer for everything. I just assumed that a seller advertising a product was affiliated with that manufacturer and authorized to be a distributor or dealer.  I'm glad I didn't make that mistake or the many other mistakes made so often by licensed professionals in the HVAC industry. All I have to do is follow your guidelines and I'll be set. Yes that's it! Now you're getting it. DESCO Energy provides a sizing form online that first helps you select the correct size system. Then we review the results of the results of the sizing form and select the size system that will efficiently heat and/or cool your house. Follow the links on this ad to go to the online sizing form or go to DESCO Energy .com and to the Start Here section and then to the Size My System page. Read through our website and you'll find most of your questions answered there. Use us as much as you like and we'll help you achieve your energy conservation goals. But what about guarantees? I've had contractors provide estimates on the size system I need and they guarantee their results. (At least they said they do.) How about DESCO Energy? We guarantee every statement we make not with just our words but with a $25,000 bond on every purchase you make from us. I've been checking your other competitors and I find most of them are working out of their homes and when I ask them for their technical training or affiliations they try to tell me they've been in the HVAC business for a long time and they know what they're doing. But none of them mention any affiliation with the manufacturers or provide any record of certified training. Does DESCO Energy have any certified training and what kind of track record do you have? We provide a complete technical support staff on call for you and each member of that technical support team is factory trained on every product we advertise. More importantly each technical support member has NATE certified training. NATE certified training indicates our technical support team has been trained to the highest HVAC industry level. NATE is supported and endorsed by every HVAC manufacturer in the industry and is the industry standard for training. As far as our record DESCO Energy has been in business for over 34 years with a perfect customer record. DESCO Energy is the only eBay seller of HVAC equipment that is a Member of the Better Business Bureau with "0" complains and has 100% feedback with no complaints filed against us in over 34 years. We have a complete brick and mortar operation located in South Central Pennsylvania with over 35,000 square feet in our facility. So now all I need to do is find a contractor and I'll be set. Will you recommend a contractor in my area who will do the installation for me? Obviously you didn't visit our website yet. Go to the Start Here section of our website and read that area thoroughly. You'll gain a wealth of information and understand how to proceed with your heating and/or air conditioning installation. It's not a contractor you need to do the final start up and hook up of the system but the licensed installer who works for the contractor. Most if not all contractors are trying to sell their own brand of equipment at their costly mark ups and profits. But the installers working for the contractor are almost always looking to make extra money doing their own installations and charge a lot less. You'll find more about this on our website and how to locate a qualified licensed installer of your choice.  You're purchasing your equipment from DESCO Energy saving you 50% or more off a contractor's price. Contractors are generally not interested in doing installations for homeowners who have already cut them out of their profit loop. In most instances you're paying the same price as the contractor or even less when you purchase form DESCO Energy. Now to be successful you need to find a qualified installer who will install the system or do the final start up and follow our guidelines on the warranty validation form. With this accomplished you are now on your way to significantly reducing your energy costs with a system that provides maximum comfort for many years of trouble free service.  Before you make your purchase for your HVAC system, remember like any other business not all sellers are created equal. If they were you'd just be buying boxes.     Search all manufacturers and you won't find a boiler that compares in features or efficiency. Beneficial features that save more than just the ratings of the AFUE such as hot water reset and modulation. Hot water reset is built into the control system to provide an additional 12 to 18% increase in efficiency. Additional energy savings are saved by the boiler's Sentry 2100 control with modulation which matches the heating output capacity to the heating requirements of the house at every given moment. Trinity and hot water in floor radiant heating systems and baseboard heating systems are a perfect match for absolute comfort control and maximum energy savings. One boiler - The Trinity Ti 200 will replace hundreds of other models by other manufacturers because of the ability of modulation to match the building's heating requirements. Heating loads change due to changing outside air temperatures. Larger homes require more heat than smaller homes. Not a problem for the Trinity with it's modulation control which can vary the heat output in accordance with the heating requirements. By modulation of the firing of the boiler from 25k btus to 200k btus and anywhere in between the Trinity replaces dozens of models from other manufacturers today. Manufactured by New York Thermal, the Trinity boiler provides intelligent control and monitoring of it's performance continuously. In five years or less all boilers will be wall mount for efficiency, compactness, ease of installation and control. You don't have to wait for the old dinosaur cast iron technology manufacturers of yesteryear to change. Trinity was one of the first manufacturer to produce an efficient wall hung boiler. Having been first their experience has allowed them to produce a more reliable product with more energy savings features than any other competitor.  Although wall hung hi efficient gas condensing boilers are a relatively new concept to the United States and Canada they have been in use in Europe for over a decade. However Trinity was first in the market place and has a proven track record for many years. Being the leader in distribution of the Trinity boilers DESCO Energy has been the leading distributor of Trinity boilers with more sales of Trinity boilers than all other boilers combined on eBay. We attribute this success to our marketing and the extensive technical support provided by DESCO in addition to the quality of engineering, design and workmanship by New York Thermal. DESCO Energy is the only Online Distributor that is Factory Certified for boiler sales to homeowners. Factory Trained and Certified to distribute Trinity boilers to you! If you can provide proof of any other advertiser authorized and/or certified to sell boilers direct to homeowners or simply Factory Authorized for online sales from the manufacturer on eBay and we'll give you a $100 credit towards the purchase of any boiler we stock. DESCO Energy is a Member Better Business Bureau Online and Bonded by BuySafe to $25k for each sale! We don't just tell you we're Factory Certified, we back it up with a $25,000 guaranteed bond on each transaction.     For  Trinity Manufacturers Specifications Click Here   The Trinity boiler has the option availability of providing domestic hot water heating in addition to basic heating. The Trinity boiler listed in this ad does not provide that option. Refer to other ads for the Trinity ti150c Combi for the dual function boiler. Domestic hot water can also be generated by use of an indirect water heater such as the Amtrol which is listed in our other ads. What is great about the Trinity wall hung boiler is first there is no chimney required. Venting can be made through sidewalls or through roofs via 3" pvc. An intake and vent pipe is required for a closed combustion system for which this boiler is designed. The second feature of the boiler is it's small and compact size which takes up no floor space. Most other manufacturers require floor mounted boilers taking up valuable floor space for the boiler and associated piping and controls. Modulation provides the boiler with the ability to match the heating load requirements of any application at any given time. Unlike other boiler manufacturers who have a wide array of boiler models at which they all operate at either 100% capacity or off results in wasted energy and operating efficiencies. By providing modulation there are longer operating cycles and very little energy lost up the stack. In fact only 2% of the energy is lost in the Trinity boiler while it is operating. And that is 2% of the heating required at the time of operation. Other boilers have an average of 20% of 100% capacity lost every time the boiler is operating at short cycles. Short operating cycles cause more than just wasted energy, they shorten the life of the equipment. Hot water reset provides an additional 16% energy savings. By only producing the degree of hot water required the boiler is able to reduce energy losses of the piping system. Typical boilers maintain one operating temperature. But the Trinity boiler varies the water temperature down as outside temperatures increase. A baseboard hot water system only requires 180 degree water at the coldest outdoor temperatures such as 0 degrees. However at 60 degrees only 90 degree hot water is required. By varying this hot water temperature according to the heat loss based on the outside temperature results in significant energy savings. If you purchase the Trinity Combi boiler system with domestic hot water coil even more significant energy savings will occur and the absence of a large hot water tank saves even more valuable floor space. The most common question asked is will this size boiler fit my house. Is this boiler large enough to supply heating to my house? If you've been doing any research at all every HVAC (Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning) manufacturer and government energy source has emphasized the importance of having a Manual J calculation preformed to determine the heating and cooling load requirements of your house. Manual J is the only recognized source which establishes the methods and calculations required to obtain accurate heating and cooling in btus.  DESCO Energy is the only online source providing Manual J sizing for your house at no charge and the results are guaranteed. The first step in any heating or air conditioning project is determining the size system required through determining the heating and cooling losses for your house. Click Here and you will be directed to the only online sizing form using Manual J. As far as we know we are the only online source providing any type of online sizing using any method. Results of the online sizing are required to be reviewed by one of our technical support representatives before they are given. After completing the online sizing form you will receive notification via email the information has been received and processed and to contact a technical support team member to review those results.  Did you realize over 99% of online advertisers are not authorized by any manufacturer or agency to sell their products? Did you all realize no manufacturer can legally stop online sales of their products? Almost all boiler manufacturers in particular will tell you they do not provide warranty or technical support for their products sold online. There is only one source - DESCO Energy - providing factory authorized support to sell boilers online from the manufacturers we represent. Why is DESCO Energy able to provide this endorsement while other sellers cannot? DESCO Energy has been providing Do It Yourself HVAC systems for over 34 years. Our business began by distributing HVAC systems and accessories to industrial and commercial customers. 23 Years ago we began providing HVAC systems to Do It Yourself Homeowners. From all these years of experience and literally thousands and thousands of successful installations we have learned and gained a wealth of experience to assist the do it yourself market. Unlike other online advertisers that range form one man contractor operations working out of their homes to advertisers that having no affiliation with the HVAC industry, their ads are merely a copy of the manufacturers specifications. Manufacturers' specifications are written for industry professionals and are not meant to be used as tools for gaining the required knowledge to do a successful installation. Whether it is manufacturers design specifications or installation instructions, that material is not designed to provide a comprehensive information for a qualified installation meeting industry or manufacturers complete standards. Homeowners are not industry professionals and do not have sufficient experience or training to be able to size, design and install a successful installation simply working off of manufacturers' manuals. DESCO Energy wants your project to be successful and as a result of the many years of experience we have acquired we have guidelines and requirements established for all installers and installations. A warranty validation form is provided to be completed by a licensed installer of your choice for final start up and check out of the boiler system. Failure to follow these guidelines and requirements and return of the warranty validation form will result in the loss of any and all warranty coverage and technical support. Further we will never knowingly sell any boiler or HVAC system to any homeowner that has no intention of using an experienced licensed installer of your choice to complete the final check out and start up of the system or complete and return the warranty validation form provided. If we didn't establish guidelines and requirements and adhere to them we would be no different than the one man show working out of their homes selling HVAC boilers like they were nothing more than another major appliance. We understand why manufacturers will not support those types of online sales. We also understand everything required to make a successful installation. Our technical support team is the best available. We don't know of any other industry professionals who size and design as many successful systems as our team does at DESCO Energy. A typical team member will size and design more systems in one month than most contractors will do in an entire career. To become a technical support team member requires years of training and education.  Our goal at DESCO Energy is to continue to maintain our great relationships we have with our manufacturers and you by providing a successful installation with many years of energy savings and long term equipment service. When purchasing a boiler for a new in floor radiant heating system or replacement for a hot water baseboard system, you can't afford to deal with Advertisers who are not Factory Authorized or Trained in the products they sell. A great deal in price is worth little if it results in a poor design or advice or after several years from now the seller no longer exists or the manufacturer refuses to provide warranty support. DESCO Energy provides the best price and the absolute best design and technical support.   Model High Fire Low Fire Firing Style DimensionsW x D x H Shipping Weight (pounds) Rated Heating Input Rated Heating Output Rated Heating Input Rated Heating Output NTI Ti200 200,000 187,000 25,000 22,700 Modulation 20-1/2" x 15" x 23" 80   Ti150 Ti200 Ti400 Size (D x W x L) 14" x 15.5" x 22" 17" x 15.5" x 22" 22" x 30" x 46" Weight 80 lbs. 110 lbs. 230 lbs. Max. Pressure 30 PSI 30 PSI 30 PSI Gas Type Natural, Propane Natural, Propane Natural, Propane Max.Vent 105' equivalent 105' equivalent 80'-4", 100'-6" Gas Line Size 1/2" NPT 1/2" NPT 1" NPT Max. Supply Water 200ºF 200ºF 200ºF Min. Return Water 30ºF 30ºF 30ºF Oxygen Tube Barrier Required Required Required Certification CSA, AGA, CSAus CSA, AGA, CSAus, CSA, AGA, CSAus, ASME ASME Ti150 Ti200 Ti400 BTU Input x1000 25 - 150 25 - 200 25 - 399 BTU Output x1000 23 - 138 22.7 - 187 22.7 - 363 S.S. Efficiency 98% 97% 96% AFUE 92% 92.7% 91% PSI Drop @ GPM 12' @ 8 13' @ 10 13' @ 20 Supply - Return 3/4" NPT 1" on H, 3/4" on C 1" NPT** Models Boiler Modulation 6:1 8:1 16:1 Ratio Flow & Level Switch Optional Optional Installed (Combi Version) Ti150 Ti200 Supply - Return 3/4" NPT Outlet 1/2" Inlet DWH Pressure Drop 1 PSI PSI Drop @ GPM (H) 15' @ 8 18' @ 10 Temperature Regulation Electronic Modulation D.H.W. Outputs at 4.0 @ 110ºF 5.5 @ 110ºF 45º inlet water 3.5 @ 120ºF 4.8 @ 120ºF (GPM @ Water ºF) 3.1 @ 130ºF 4.5 @ 130ºF Optional Domestic Water Heating Coil is not included in this listing TOP TEN LISTThe Advantages of the Trinity Boiler 1. Available in both Natural Gas and Propane versions with a modulationsystem that eliminates additional models.2. State-of-the-art sealed modulation combustion system with hot surfaceignition.3. Innovative condensing heat exchanger provides ultimate efficiencies.4. All connections are conveniently located for ease of installation.5. Wall mount configuration saves valuable floor space.6. Vents easily with conventional ABS or CPVC plastic piping.7. Condenser does not use aluminum but is constructed totally from stainlesssteel, which is a proven material for condensing appliances.8. The distinctive casing design reduces costly standby losses, while virtuallyeliminating combustion noises.9. High-capacity heat exchanger coil provides ample domestic hot water.10. The Trinity is certified, designed and rated to strict CSA, AGA and CSA UL codes.   Optional Equipment Required But Not Included with this purchase. Taco T011 Pump Performance DataFlow Range: 0-28 GPMHead Range: 0-30 FeetMinimum Fluid Temperature: 40º F (4º C)Maximum Fluid Temperature: 230º F (110º C)Maximum Working Pressure: 125 PSIConnection Sizes: 3/4”, 1”, 1-1/4”, 1-1/2” Flanged Flange Set Included with Isolation ValvesThe Taco High Velocity Series 0011 Cartridge Circulator is specifically designed for high-head/medium-flow applications in large residential/light commercial closed-loop hydronic heating water systems. Exclusive, anti condensate baffle (ACB) protects motor windings on chilled water jobs. Unique, “00” family  replaceable cartridge contains all of the moving parts so you can service it easily instead of replacing the entire unit. Universal flange-to-flange dimensions and orientation allow the 0011 to easily replace other models. Features Exclusive ACB (Anti-Condensate Baffle) with Ambient Air Flow—Protects motor windings against condensate buildup. High Velocity Performance Compact Design Quiet, Efficient Operation Unique Replaceable Cartridge Design – Field Serviceable Direct Drive-Low Power Consumption Self-Lubricating No Mechanical Seal Unmatched Reliability --Maintenance Free Universal Flange-to-Flange Dimensions Cast Iron Construction   No matter what the product may be it is always possible to find a lower price somewhere. We not only give you the best price but the best support. Check our feedback from all our customers. It's 100% and it's all about the excellent technical support we provide. It is always a recommended step to verify and validate with the boiler manufacturer whether the seller or the product advertised is supported by the manufacturer. We did just that. We called Munch.. and Peerl... and Burnh... and Wei.. McLa... and Cro.. because we wanted to know if our competition was legitimate and Factory Authorized and if the sale of their products came with Factory Support or Factory Warranties as we do at DESCO Energy.  We can tell you none of the manufacturers approve or provide warranty support for any of their boilers or other products sold online. (We didn't use the full names to avoid eBay listing violations of keywords.) Do you really want to make this kind of an investment into a boiler for $$$$ that has no factory support and absolutely no factory warranty??? You do the math and figure what it will cost you if your new boiler purchase doesn't perform as you thought it should or you have technical problems. Beware of boiler sales from box sellers and drop shippers who have no Factory Authorization. The seller may tell you they'll provide you with their idea of the factory warranty and support. What happens later or several years from now when you can't get in contact with the seller or they don't live up to your expectations? HVAC equipment warranties and support are subject to important and specific requirements. They are not similar to other household appliances in that you have to go back first to the Authorized Distributor or Dealer of their products to obtain warranty support. The manufacturer works through their Authorized network of distributors to provide warranty support. The Authorized Distributor has been factory trained and approved and has made a serious financial commitment to the manufacturer in terms of inventory, warehouse, training, etc. for their products. In the event of technical problems the Authorized Distributor is responsible for resolving these matters. It is the full responsibility of the distributor to resolve these problems should they occur. The factory is only consulted by the distributor in the unlikely event the problem can't be resolved by the Authorized Distributor. By purchasing a boiler from an unauthorized seller you are out of the manufacturers established loop of Authorized Distributors. The manufacturer has no proof of whether the boiler was sized and installed correctly and to their specifications. And you have no idea who the Authorized Distributor is nor how to verify a factory approved installation. So you have no factory warranty or factory support. Further manufacturers provide territories of distribution with each distributor.   Customers report to us the hot water on average saves then an additional 16%. Here is how. As the outside temperature changes the boiler also changes the temperature of the hot water. While standard boilers operate and maintain a constant water temperature of 180 degrees the Trinity boiler will lower the hot water temperature as the outside air temperature increases. A typical hot water reset schedule would be to provide 90 degree hot water at 60 degrees outside air temperature and 140 degrees at 30 degrees outside air temperature and 190 degree water temperature at 0 degrees outside air temperature.  with hot water reset you'll save an additional 12 to 20% of those energy usage.     Remember energy efficiency isn't all about the Seer or AFUE rating only. If you want complete details about features such as humidification, indoor air quality, variable speed etc. and the benefits they provide in additional energy savings and comfort visit our website. The most complete HVAC resource on the internet taking over one year to develop. Click Here You will be directed to our new website in a new window. Price - $3,134   Be Safe Buy Safe  Make your HVAC purchase from the only online seller Factory Authorized for Boiler Sales to Provide the Trinity Factory Warranties direct to you! DESCO Energy The absolute only Authorized Factory Sales with Factory Support and Factory Warranty for Boilers Don't make such a large investment form any other source and hope you'll get some type of warranty protection. Be Safe Buy Safe Factory Warranty The unit listed has a full manufacturers factory warranty. DESCO Energy is a complete Authorized New York Thermal Distributor. There is also no exclusion in the warranties regarding online sales from DESCO Energy. The warranty on the product listed in this ad is: Limited 1 year warranty on all parts. 10 Years on the Heat Exchanger 5 Years 1005 6-10 years prorated.   For complete warranty policies and procedures etc. Click Here   For Complete Manufacturers Specifications Click Here Shipping The system listed is 110 lbs. Class 85 All equipment is shipped terminal delivery freight collect via ABF at a substantial discount unless otherwise specified. Need a freight quote? Be sure to provide your zip code and shipping weights when asking for a shipping quote. Click Here  Want to learn more about shipping details? Click Here To most locations within 500  miles of our office the shipping cost on this system is $115 . For exact costs to any location ask for a freight quote. Email info@descoenergy.com or call Toll Free 877-265-9764 Welcome to our new Shorter Ads After one year in development we are launching our new website. Previously our ads were known as the longest on eBay because there was so much information we wanted to convey to potential customers to make the smartest choices when selecting and installing their do it yourself heating and air conditioning systems. Our policy has always been "The more you know, the better we look!" With so many efficiency changes coming in our industry, the new energy tax credits, new features and benefits, the skyrocketing fuel cost increases, fraudulent practices by some competitors, changes in warranties, etc. the information simply became too much to put into any single ad. Homeowners were demanding more and more information to assist them in selecting and installing equipment as newer features became more complex so we went to work a year ago putting together the most comprehensive website in the HVAC industry. In fact our website is so comprehensive with thousands of informative articles that if you can't find the information there or the link to the source, chances are it doesn't exist. You won't find any pricing on our website but you will find a wealth of information. Our new website has been launched. To view the outstanding wealth of information to help you design, select and install every type of system Click Here  No prices are listed on our website. Prices of products are listed on eBay only. Every area is covered in our new website including designing duct systems, selecting a system, air conditioning, gas furnaces, hydronics, boilers and radiant heating systems, heat pumps, dual fuel system, indoor air quality, factory warranties, authorized sellers, buyer beware, how to select a contractor, whole house energy efficiency and much much more. Did you know the overwhelming majority of online sellers of HVAC equipment are working out of their homes? Don't have a license to sell HVAC equipment? Don't stock a single piece of equipment? Have no direct affiliation with the manufacturer of the products they sell? Can't provide a Factory Warranty? Have only been in the HVAC business for about as long as the internet has been popular? Before that they didn't know anymore than you do about HVAC equipment? Plagiarize specifications and present false manufacturers specifications? Some one man show advertisers make no attempt to hide what and who they are and are very upfront with their customers in their ads. It is the overwhelming number of others who do everything to stress their "honesty" while deceiving potential customers into portraying an image of a large factory distribution outlet.   You'll learn many more interesting facts about who these sellers are and their fraudulent practices on our new website including how to make a safe purchase and protect yourself against them. The most educational HVAC website on the internet Check it out   The best HVAC website on the internet  Over a year in developing The new comprehensive DESCO Energy website  Thanks for looking!  Click Here to go to our new website (in a new window) Also visit our educational section here on our eBay store pages. Who is DESCO Energy? DESCO Energy is your largest online wholesale distributor for heating and air conditioning systems and products. With over 34 years in the HVAC Industry providing wholesale distribution with total technical support and product selection for every application including: Residential - Commercial - Industrial   Heating - Air Conditioning - Refrigeration Located in the heart of the Northeast United States we are centrally located to every major city in our region. Only minutes or a couple hours from Washington, Baltimore, New York, Philadelphia and Pittsburg.   DESCO Energy is a Member of the Better Business Bureau Online NATE Certified (The Only Nationally recognized HVAC certification program for training recognized and supported by all major HVAC manufacturers and organizations. ) Factory Trained and Authorized Dealer/Distributor for all products we advertise Ebay Gold Level Power Seller 34 Years in the HVAC Business Visa-MasterCard-American Express-Discover-Approved for Credit Cards Paypal Approved Certified Registered Engineering for Commercial-Industrial Projects   THE ONLY INTERNET HVAC Distributor PROVIDING   Trinity Factory Technical Support and Warranty Support     Where are We?   DESCO is located in the heart of the Northeast United States. We are only minutes or a couple hours from all major cities including Washington, D.C., Baltimore, Maryland, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, New York Located at the heart of York Air Conditioning - 26 N. State St., York, Pa. 17403         What DESCO will do for YOU! We are a complete wholesale distribution company of heating and air conditioning systems for the DIY or Do It Yourselfer and Contractor We provide complete sizing of all systems we sell and selection of matched components for the maximum efficiency. Sizing of all air conditioning and heating systems requires the best technology software. At DESCO we guarantee sizing results. For more information check out our sizing section. We guarantee the products and systems we sell. All equipment we advertise comes with complete warranty support from DESCO. We also provide additional warranty protection not included in the manufacturer's warranties for DOA and a lemon policy. For details about the warranty for the item advertised please go to the warranty section of this ad.  DESCO employs technical associates with many years experience in the HVAC industry. Our associates are ready to assist you in every aspect of your new HVAC replacement or new installation. At DESCO we will provide sizing results for the exact size system for your application as well as duct sizing and/or radiant heat sizing and layout. Please note that we only provide duct or radiant sizing layout until there is a financial commitment made toward the purchase of an HVAC system. DESCO also provides complete packaging of your HVAC system and total shipping. For details and the process of shipping please go to our shipping section of this ad. After Sales Support After you've purchased your new HVAC system your relationship with DESCO will continue as long as the warranty and beyond. For all technical questions and replacements parts you will need to contact our technical assistance to provide support such as wiring details for thermostats or settings for the new variable speed drive systems. Although many of these requirements are to be performed by a licensed technician, you will want to make certain your new HVAC system has been installed correctly. We provide may technical instructions and diagrams via PDF format written exclusively by our in house technical staff.   What DESCO will not do to YOU!   We will never knowingly sell an HVAC system to any Do It Yourselfer with no intention of using a licensed technician to do the final hook up and start up and check out of the system. DESCO is the only source providing Authorized Factory Warranty Support. HVAC manufacturers know our policies meet and exceed their requirements for a superior installation and application of the systems we sell. Our requirements include complete system sizing and a licensed technician to follow and complete our warranty validation form for warranty and technical support. Any EPA licensed experienced technician of your choice in your area is qualified to complete the final hook up and start up of your new HVAC system. DESCO is an Authorized Online HVAC Advertiser with total affiliation with the manufacturers we represent. To verify this go to the web site of the manufacturer listed and search for Authorized Dealers and Distributors. You'll see DESCO's listing. To be eligible and obtain those warranties, the manufacturers we represent know as a result of our policies and their past experiences, DESCO has the lowest warranty claims in the industry and the best reputation among our customers for comfort, satisfaction and equipment longevity. Further you will find we are the only online advertiser who not only mentions warranties but provides complete warranty details. We can't afford to have any dissatisfied customers. We know when your HVAC system is working to provide maximum comfort and efficiently you'll be realizing savings every day of every year for many years to come. You'll tell your friend and family. And that's how DESCO has continued to grow for over 34 Years! Look at our ads carefully for solid information to assist you in getting started to make the best selection of an HVAC system for your house. You will find useful information you can use to make intelligent decisions for the best energy efficient system for you. Manufacturer's ads and literature are designed for the experienced contractor and to provide protection to the manufacturer from liabilities against incorrect procedures and installations. Manufacturer's installation literature is not designed to assist  inexperienced technicians nor Do It Yourselfers. What you will learn most from all manufacturer's installation literature is what not to do and even less about how to do a complete installation. Manufacturer's assume the installer has complete experience in the HVAC industry.   The most common item overlooked when replacing an HVAC system is the duct system or air distribution system. Usually the duct system is assumed to adequate. As a result nobody checks whether the existing duct system is sized and installed correctly. Upsizing of HVAC equipment is a common mistake made by contractors and homeowners. When replacing any system every homeowner needs to ask the cause of the failure of the existing system. Was the failure due to inadequate comfort? Or was the failure due to high maintenance costs? Or is the failure simply a result of higher energy costs? Or a common mistake is to assume the equipment simply is worn out and there is no need to check any design problems of the exiting equipment or system. If the failure is a result of inadequate comfort levels often times this can be the result of an improperly designed and installed duct system. Only replacing the existing HVAC equipment will not provide a solution to the problem of inadequate comfort. Increasing the size of the HVAC equipment to an existing duct system that is already poorly designed and installed only compounds the problem of comfort, increases energy consumption and causes premature equipment failure. At DESCO we will not attempt to sell you an HVAC system under the pretense that it is as simple as purchasing a major appliance. There's so much more to the whole process of sizing, selection and installation of an HVAC system.  We understand there is a lot of misinformation in this industry. Look around our ads and our education information we've provided online. Hopefully we'll clear up a lot of the misinformation with solid practical advise based on our many years experience and industry engineering solutions that are proven to provide the maximum energy savings, comfort and equipment life. We also promise not to make you part of the epidemic problem of oversized equipment and undersized or inadequate duct systems. We'll help you avoid becoming part of the ever growing statistics of premature equipment failures by oversizing as highlighted in the Department of Energy's Top Concern for HVAC systems. We won't size your HVAC system by a climate chart or square foot per ton. Climate charts may work well for planting flowers and vegetables but not for sizing HVAC systems. Sizing of a system by square foot per ton will almost certainly guarantee an oversized system. You can also find more information about the negative results of this problem from the US Dept. of Energy web site.   For this and many other reasons we will not quote any HVAC system to any Do It Yourselfer via a request by email or phone until we have had an opportunity to correctly size and determine the best system. According to the US Dept of Energy over 90% of premature HVAC equipment failures are a result of oversizing of the system. At DESCO we promise not to add to this growing epidemic. In this ad we'll explain our warranty, shipping, sizing, selection and basics on how to get started in the process of determining which HVAC system will work best for you. Hopefully we'll open your mind up to a lot of the misinformation you may have already been given. Even if you've already had several contractors propose the same size and type of system we'll provide information here that may cause you to rethink that proposal and realize there are better alternative Do It Yourself HVAC Getting Started On the road to installing an energy efficient maximum comfort HVAC system the first step is to determine what type of system works best for you. The choices are many and can be confusing. Heat Pump, Gas or Oil Furnace with or without air conditioning, Electric Heat, Geothermal Heat Pump, Dual Fuel System, Radiant Floor Heat. Forced air or convection or radiant? What fuel is the most cost effective? What kind of life expectancy should I expect? The answer to these questions depend primarily on where you're located and what your specific costs of energy are for your particular region. One size doesn't fit all and energy costs vary throughout every region. The first part of this process should be to determine what your real energy costs are.. When determining real costs add the taxes and other charges because they are part of the real equation for comparisons. Certain utility companies offer tremendous incentives to use a specific type of energy. For example in certain areas the utility company may provide a discount if you have an all electric home. Those discounts can be 50% or more over what a regular customer receives. In addition certain utilities offer rebates for installing higher efficiency equipment. Check with all your local utilities to understand what discounts and rebate programs might be available. Also determine the length of the program. For example a utility that offers a substantial discount for only six months and then increases the rate might not be such a great deal. A number of all electric homes were built n the 70's and 80's because the electric utilities were offering great incentive programs at the time. But when those discount programs expired the homeowner was left with a utility cost that was so expensive they couldn't afford the monthly costs. Worse was the fact they couldn't get proper market value if they attempted to sell the house. Be careful of all these programs and realize the real cost effects of the energy when the program ends. When it does, are you going to be faced with those ultra high utility bills? In some cases there are ways to plan around those potential problems by selecting a dual fuel system when that choice is available. Many people today believe the cost of natural gas is higher than any other fuel available because of all the price increases from 2004. Recent utility trends have been to lower the cost of natural gas. In most regions of the country natural gas is still the best value of all fuels available. When it comes to natural gas, electric, oil and propane the prices of each utility continue to increase rapidly. Like a horse race to see who can achieve the highest costs the prices rise faster monthly. We're made more aware of this effect every time we stop at a gas station to refill our cars. Every week the prices change and mostly upward.  As a basic rule of thumb the cost for heating and air conditioning is the biggest household budget item. Determine what your costs are for your specific area so that you can make a more intelligent decision in selecting the most efficient system for you. Regardless of the type of present system you may have, don't automatically assume this is the best replacement. A developer may have selected the type of system you presently have due to special offers from the utility years ago or initial cost factors. Utility costs were different years ago and so were the types and efficiencies of systems. Also improvements to the house such as more energy efficient windows, additional insulation and weatherization all play an important role in the size system required today. Initially a house may have required a 3 ton system but later was made more energy efficient and today may only require a 2-1/2 ton system. Now is the perfect time to explore all your options. Also remember dinosaur attitudes and memories never seem to fade in the HVAC industry. For example we continue to hear customers negative apprehension about heat pumps or electronic control systems for furnaces that are left over from 25 to 35 years ago.  These products and their associated problems have been resolved many years ago but the apprehension  and reputation undeservedly continues today as though it was just last year. There are however certain basics you can use. Natural gas is still the best buy and prices are actually beginning to decrease in certain areas of the country. Propane gas is generally the most expensive form of heating. And oil and electric are generally somewhere in between. The best system for comfort is In Floor Radiant Heat. The most efficient form of heating is a dual fuel system combining the efficiency of a heat pump and natural gas or oil furnace. The least expensive operating system is a geothermal heat pump but initial equipment costs and installation make this system ineffective for return on investment. To read more about these and other types of systems go to our Ebay education center where we provide greater detail about them. You can find those links at the beginning of this ad. Review all your options and possibilities before making a final decision. If you need further assistance don't hesitate to call our technical representatives to assist you Toll Free at 877-265-9764 or email: info@descoenergy.com Sizing Once you've determined the type of system and fuel you'll be using the next item is the size or capacity, efficiency and features. To determine the correct size system you'll need to look at many factors such as the type, size and construction and direction of walls, windows, roof and location and direction. All these factors and more determine what size system you need to install. First we need to deprogram all the misleading information you've been told about sizing an HVAC system correctly. Please note there are only two methods of correctly sizing an HVAC system. The right way using Manual J as a basis and the wrong way. Most likely the method you have learned one of the following wrong ways; The contractor told me this was the right size. I had several estimates and all the contractors told me this size. I used one of those charts that show you how many square feet per ton. My neighbor's house is this size and that's the size system they have. And on and on... Too many HVAC contractors are notorious for using rules of thumb for too many applications. Why? It's quicker and easier to use a Rule of Thumb. The problem with these sizing methods is they cause you to purchase a system that will more often be too large. So what's wrong with a larger system? After all it's a common American belief when a little is good then more is even better, right? Of all the wrong decisions that can be made about an HVAC system selecting an oversized system is the worst. Bigger is not always better! Here's Why? First and most importantly the larger system will fail prematurely and the comfort level will be less than desirable. If it's an air conditioning system the cooling won't run long enough to properly dehumidify the air. The comfort result is a house that's cold but clammy.  The hidden result is a compressor that short cycles. The compressor fails long before it normally would have if the system was sized correctly. Note that short operating cycles destroy HVAC equipment and decrease comfort. Why install a larger system that costs more initially when a smaller system will give you the effective results you need? Contractors do this because it's safe. Homeowners are usually unaware of the problem because the destruction goes on unnoticed to the untrained eyes and ears. Homeowners and contractors in our field are installing a system that won't provide sufficient heat or cooling. However this problem rarely ever happens. A furnace that is oversized produces short cycles of hot blasts of air instead of warm air. Again short cycles will destroy any HVAC equipment prematurely. A normal operating cycle will last anywhere from 12 to 15 minutes or more. Shorter operating cycles prohibit the unit from obtaining normal operating temperatures and result in the system never obtaining operating efficiency. Much the same as your automobile that is only operated for short periods of time, the engine never gets warm enough to operate at the maximum efficiency levels and the net result is higher gasoline usage and short life cycle. Remember that a heating system has to obtain very high temperatures in the heat exchanger as a result of the burning gas. During this process there is a tremendous strain the heat exchanger as the system expands due to the increasing temperatures and stress on the motors due to starting torques required. Constant starting torques on the motors and continual expansion and contraction of the materials result in a premature failure. These are hidden effects that you don't see or notice until the repair bill comes or the furnace fails completely beyond reasonable repair. What you will notice is the discomfort associated with oversized equipment. Instead of a more balanced temperature the result is hot blasts of air and wider temperature fluctuations resulting in larger temperature swings. Many homeowners assume this is simply normal and become accustomed to this type of operation. Oversizing of equipment is such a chronic problem that it has become epidemic. In fact the problem has become so severe the US Department of Energy has published many articles and warnings about the problem to you the consumer. Oversizing of equipment is the single biggest problem of premature equipment failures in the HVAC industry. Why does this problem proliferate in the HVAC industry? An HVAC contractor and a homeowner's worst fear in selecting an HVAC system is that it won't heat or cool sufficiently. Having no experience or confidence in our industry's accepted design and engineering standards such as Manual J,  results in a guess. To be safe the guess will always be on the extremely large system. The end result is a system that is not only uncomfortable, but also an Energy Hog!  There is remedy to this problem. At DESCO we're putting an end to the epidemic oversizing of HVAC systems for you to help you avoid premature equipment failure, increase comfort levels and increase energy savings and less initial cost as well. DESCO will at no charge size your HVAC system accurately with guaranteed sizing results. Simply Click Here to go to our online sizing form. Fill out the requested information and then push the submit button. You will the receive an email indicating the information was received and the results are ready for you. Our technical staff will review those results with you to be certain all information is correct. Most importantly there is no charge for this service. You can then be assured you know the correct size heating and cooling system for your house based not on guess but real engineering standards. Our HVAC computer sizing is Manual J as the basis. Manual J is the form and method recognized as the correct engineering method to determine correct sizing of any residential structure. In addition to this software we have added other limits and calculations in addition to the Manual J program. These additions limitations for ventilation for extremely efficient tight construction such as ICF. Are we accurate? In one month each technical associate in our company will size more systems than the average contractor will size in his entire career. Our software system is one of two that has been accepted and recognized by most governing agencies in our industry including the US Dept. Of Energy. After 34 years and with the volume of equipment we sell we can't afford to be wrong. Our sizing takes into consideration all effects of your house including geographic location, your climate data for your specific region, the construction of your house and the insulating efficiencies of all walls and windows. We can also tell you the effect of adding more insulation or increasing the efficiency of the windows and the effect this will have on the size of the HVAC system. We realize we provide redundant information on the importance of correct sizing intentionally to stress to you the importance of this issue. For new construction we strongly recommend in addition sending us the plans for the house either via a sketch that is faxed to 717-846-3880 or emailed to info@descoenergy.com. You can also mail a copy to us direct at Technical Sales Dept.  DESCO, 26 N. State St., York, Pa. 17403 All drawings should include floor plans, elevation view and direct of either North, South, East or West. Drawings do not have to be to scale. If you wish to do a computer layout there are free downloads of programs on the internet. Attachments should be in standard office format such as pdf. jpeg, gif or wrks. Our virus protection many times will not scan cad drawings effectively. In the event of improper scanning the firewall may delete the attachment or email. We recommend converting all cad formats to standard formats such as dwg or office formats. We provide this sizing service to you at no charge. If you want a room by room printed analysis, we do have a service charge for this. However in the case of in floor radiant heat we will as necessity requires provide a room by room analysis for estimating purposes. We do not provide the individual room results or analysis unless there is a purchase of a system.            After Sizing is The Radiant Flooring   Radiant Floor Heating Radiant floor heating has been used for centuries. The Romans channeled hot air under the floors of their villas. The Koreans channeled hot flue gases under their floors before venting them up the chimney. In the 1930s, architect Frank Lloyd Wright piped hot water through the floors of many of his buildings. Some home builders' surveys have shown that, if given a choice, most new home owners prefer radiant floor heat over other types of systems. Advantages of Radiant Floor Heating Most people who own radiant floor heating feel that the most important advantages are comfort and quiet operation. Radiant floor systems allow even heating throughout the whole floor, not just in localized spots as with wood stoves, hot air systems, and other types of radiators. The room heats from the bottom up, warming the feet and body first. Radiant floor heating also eliminates the draft and dust problems associated with forced-air heating systems. Even heat distribution may result in lower heating bills. With radiant floor heating, you may be able to set the thermostat several degrees lower, relative to other types of central heating systems. This is because the entire surface of the floor radiates about the same amount of heat that the human body does, making the occupant feel warm even though the air temperature might be only 65ºF (18ºC). It also radiates this heat for a long period of time. Radiant systems may result in less infiltration of outside air into the house compared to houses with forced-air heating. Radiant floor heating proponents claim that fuel savings of 15% to 20% over forced air systems are possible. However, recent reports suggest that this may not be the case, since occupants may not be comfortable with a "low" thermostat setting and thus not set it lower. Radiant floor heating also allows for lower boiler temperatures, which may result in the boiler lasting longer (a 45 year life is not unusual). Radiant floors operate between 85-140ºF (29-60ºC), compared to other hydronic heating systems' range of 130-160ºF (54-71ºC). To some, the greatest advantage of radiant floor heating is aesthetic. The system is "invisible." There are no heat registers or radiators to obstruct furniture arrangements and interior design plans. Radiant floor systems also eliminate the fan noise of forced hot air systems. Types of Radiant Floor Heating There are three types of radiant floor heat: radiant air floors (air is the heat carrying medium); electric radiant floors; and hot water (hydronic) radiant floors. All three types can be further subdivided by the type of installation: those that make use of the large thermal mass of a concrete slab floor or lightweight concrete over a wooden subfloor (these are called "wet" installations); and those in which the installer "sandwiches" the radiant floor tubing between two layers of plywood or attaches the tubing under the finished or subfloor (dry installations). Because air cannot hold large amounts of heat, radiant air floors are not cost-effective in residential applications, and are seldom installed. Electric radiant floors are usually only cost-effective if your electric utility company offers time-of-use rates. Time-of-use rates allow you to "charge" the concrete floor with heat during off-peak hours (approximately 9 p.m. to 6 am). If the floor's thermal mass is large enough, the heat stored in it will keep the house comfortable for eight to ten hours, without any further electrical input. This saves a considerable number of energy dollars compared to heating at peak electric rates during the day. Hydronic (liquid) systems are the most popular and cost-effective systems for heating-dominated climates. They have been in extensive use in Europe for decades. Hydronic radiant floor systems pump heated water from a boiler through tubing laid in a pattern underneath the floor. The temperature in each room is controlled by regulating the flow of hot water through each tubing loop. This is done by a system of zoning valves or pumps and thermostats. Wet installations are the oldest form of modern radiant floor systems. In a "wet" installation, the tubing is embedded in the concrete foundation slab, or in a lightweight concrete slab on top of a subfloor, or over a previously poured slab. If the new floor is not on solid earth, additional floor support may be necessary because of the added weight. You should consult a professional engineer to determine the floor's carrying capacity. However, due to recent innovations in floor technology, "dry" floors have been gaining a lot of popularity over wet floors. Much of this is because a dry floor is faster and less expensive to build. There are several ways to make a dry radiant floor. Some "dry" installations involve suspending the tubing underneath the subfloor between the joists. This method usually requires drilling through the floor joists in order to install the tubing. Reflective insulation must also be installed under the tubes to direct the heat upward. Tubing may also be installed from above the floor, between two layers of subfloor. In these instances, the tubes are often in aluminum diffusers that spread the water's heat across the floor in order to heat the floor more evenly. The tubing and heat diffusers are secured between furring strips (sleepers) which carry the weight of the new subfloor and finished floor surface. At least one company has improved on this idea by making a plywood subfloor material manufactured with tubing grooves and aluminum heat diffuser plates built into them. The manufacturer claims that this product makes a radiant floor system (for new construction) considerably less expensive to install and faster to react to room temperature changes. Such products also allow for the use of half as much tubing since the heat transfer characteristics of the floor is greatly improved over more traditional dry or wet floors. Floor Coverings Although ceramic tile is the most common floor covering for radiant floor heating, almost any floor covering can be used. However, some perform better than others. Common floor coverings like vinyl and linoleum sheet goods, carpeting, wood or bare concrete is often specified. However, it is wise to always remember that anything that can insulate the floor also reduces or slows the heat entering the space from the floor system. This in turn increases fuel consumption. If you want carpeting, use a thin carpet with dense padding and install as little carpeting as possible. If some rooms, but not all, will have a floor covering then those rooms should have a separate tubing loop to make the system heat these spaces more efficiently. This is because the water flowing under the covered floor will need to be hotter to compensate for the floor covering. Most radiant floor references also recommend using laminated wood flooring instead of solid wood. This reduces the possibility of the wood shrinking and cracking from the drying effects of the heat. While solid wood flooring can be used, the installer is strongly advised to be very familiar with radiant floor systems before attempting to install natural wood flooring over a radiant floor system. Most manufacturers and manuals relating to radiant floors offer guidelines to help you resolve these issues. Types of Tubing Older radiant floor systems used either copper or steel tubing embedded in the concrete floors. Unless the builder coated the tubing with a protective compound, a chemical reaction between the metal and the concrete often led to corrosion of the tubing, and to eventual leaks. Major manufacturers of hydronic radiant floor systems now use cross-linked polyethylene (PEX) or rubber tubing with an oxygen diffusion barrier. These materials have proven themselves to be more reliable than the older choices in tubing. Fluid additives also help protect the system from corrosion. There have been recent reports of problems with rubber tubing produced by one chemical manufacturer. Leaks develop at the metal connections or fittings, and in some cases the tubing becomes rigid and brittle. It is still not clear what causes this problem, but theoretically excessively high water temperatures may be to blame. Tightening connections and clamps only temporarily fixes the leaks. Remember this problem only concerns a specific brand of rubber tubing. It does not have anything to do with the PEX tubing, which has performed very reliably for many decades. Since the price of copper tubing is considerably lower now than several years ago, it is again gaining some popularity because of it's superior heat transfer abilities over plastic-based tubing. Controlling the System A radiant floor that uses a concrete slab takes many hours to heat up if it is allowed to become cold. This can be very inconvenient while waiting for the slab heat up so it can heat the space. Because of this, most radiant floor systems are not permitted to go into a very deep night setback. Depending on how the floor is constructed, the time it takes to re-heat the floor is sometimes longer than the occupant's sleep period. Many floor systems are also controlled by a floor thermostat instead of a wall thermostat. The system is also often designed to keep the circulation pump(s) running while the thermostat only controls the boiler's burner. Other, more sophisticated, types of controls sense the floor temperature, outdoor temperature, and room temperature to keep the home comfortable. Such a system may also use less fuel. Although radiant floor systems are usually heated by a boiler, they can also be heated with a geothermal heat pump. Such a system offers even greater energy savings in climates where the heating and cooling loads are similar in size. Another alternative for small houses, or those with small heating loads, is to use an ordinary gas water heater to supply the radiant floor system. Cost of Radiant Floor Heating The cost of installing a hydronic radiant floor is approximately $4.00 to $6.00 per square foot ($40-$60 per square meter). This fluctuates depending on the size of the room, the type of installation, the floor covering, remoteness of the site, and the cost of labor. For further questions and information email us at info@descoenergy.com or toll free 877-265-9764. Thank you! Place a Bid!